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CHILDREN AS COMPLAINANTS
IN THE HEALTH AND PERSONAL SOCIAL SERVICES IN NORTHERN IRELAND
7 FINDINGS: THE PERSPECTIVES
OF LAY PERSONS IN THE COMPLAINTS SYSTEM
FINDINGS FROM LAY KEY
INFORMANTS
During September and October
2001, eighteen semi-structured interviews with key informants
involved in the complaints process were carried out by telephone.
Interviews lasted between 15 and 35 minutes with the average
being 25 minutes. Interviewees included six panel members,
six independent persons involved in the Children Order complaints
procedure, three convenors of requests for independent review
and three lay chairs. Thirteen of the respondents had been
involved in complaints by or about children.
All of the interviewees had
been involved with the complaints systems for a minimum
of two years and the majority had been involved for four
to five years. Three of the eighteen expressed disappointment
that they had not been involved in many panel proceedings
and had little contact from their Health and Social Services
Board since being selected for panel membership.
The majority were satisfied
with the amount and quality of training they had received.
However a few felt that issues such as ethics should be
dealt with as well as legislation and complaints procedures.
'Independent Persons' (the term for lay people involved
in the Children Order system) were the only informants who
had had training which dealt with handling complaints made
by or on behalf of children. For the most part, they were
individuals who had had considerable experience working
with children and young people in their professional lives
for example as social workers or counsellors. Lay people
involved in the Wilson system had different backgrounds
usually not involving work with children but had not received
advice or guidance on dealing with complaints involving
children.
Most interviewees were satisfied
with the decision-making process involved in the complaints
procedures formal stages. However, the independent persons
working with the Children Order procedures were much more
likely than those involved in the Wilson system to express
dissatisfaction with this. Two informants mentioned the
"club-like" atmosphere within Trusts and the difficulties
for them as "outsiders" in getting their views across. One
independent person spoke quite openly about their belief
that their opinions were being suppressed.
All of the interviewees felt
that the system worked well in making staff accountable
for their actions, as one interviewee commented:
| "It would certainly keep me on my
toes anyway!" |
Two informants remarked that:
| "People don't complain enough" |
One went on to remark that
even in her everyday life she heard stories which were appalling
and that although a lot of people do not like to complain
about their care or treatment when they know staff are overworked
and services are underfunded:
| "Making a complaint can help someone
else in the future and stop them going through the same
thing. It can improve the service for everybody" |
The majority of informants
felt that appropriate recommendations were being made as
a result of complaints. However they were considerably less
sure about whether this actually led to improvements in
services as most received very little feedback on this.
One panel member went so far as to say:
| "Sometimes it seems that reports just
vanish into a black hole" |
another remarked
| "It's hard to know if our findings
are carried out at all" |
Several interviewees remarked
that it was difficult for the process to be seen as independent
if review panels and interviews with complainants and/or
those complained about were held on Trust or Board property.
A number also commented that if they had been employees
of a Trust or Board in the past or had a professional background
in Health or Social Services, they might not always be perceived
by complainants as entirely independent themselves.
One very serious issue has
arisen over the subject of indemnity for independent persons
involved in the Children Order complaints procedure. One
interviewee explained that in return for a Trust's insurance
and indemnity being extended to cover independent persons,
the Trust had taken the view it had a right to examine reports
produced by the independent person so as to ensure that
nothing was contained therein which might prove damaging
to the Trust in the event of subsequent litigation.
If Trusts or Boards are permitted
to have such a right, independent persons could clearly
no longer behave as independent persons. Furthermore, bringing
a complaint through the Children Order process may end up
being detrimental to complainants interests.
As noted above, thirteen
of the interviewees had been involved in complaints involving
children. In only one case (involving a child in residential
care) was the child the complainant. In all other cases
the complaint was made by an adult on the child's behalf.
The majority of informants felt that a child's best interests
could be adequately put forward by an adult acting on their
behalf although one remarked that while a lot of individuals
may have a say in a child's particular case
| "People do not always have the best
interest of the child at heart and a balance must be
struck between peoples' rights and the protection of
the child" |
Protecting the child was certainly
uppermost in most interviewee's mind. Only three of the
informants could give examples of instances when children's
own views on complaints concerning them were actively sought.
Interestingly all of these reported that the process had
been successful even when the children were as young as
nine or ten, or in (in one case) had a learning disability.
Two informants commented
on the number of "professional complainers" they had come
across in their experience of the complaints system. Two
went on to comment on the danger of malicious complaints
being made by children or young people - in particular with
regard to complaints of abuse. One interviewee believed
that some children were "accomplished liars".
All of the interviewers felt
comfortable that young people of sixteen and over were able
to give evidence on their own behalf but most had concerns
about children who were considerably younger than this,
although two noted the "streetwise" and "clued-up" nature
of some quite young children. On the other hand, one interviewee
believed that evidence given by minors should be considered
in the same light as that given by the mentally infirm.
A number of suggestions were
made in order to make it easier for children to give evidence
in complaints concerning them. These included specially
trained interviewers and review panels consisting of people
with experience of working with children, interviews being
carried out in an environment familiar to the child and
the use of video evidence. As one interviewee remarked:
| "It is hard enough for an ordinary
person to get up in front of a panel, never mind a child" |
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Complaints staff and lay persons need training
both to recognise the importance of children's own
views and to help them exercise their rights to express
these views.
Panel working methods should be modified where
appropriate to create an environment comfortable for
the child and this may include the availability of
an interviewer experienced in working with children.
Lessons might be learned from the Northern Ireland
Courts Service which affords child witnesses special
consideration. Live television links have been installed
in certain court venues and in certain circumstances
children in abuse and violence cases are able to give
their evidence from a private room without having
to enter the courtroom.
Review panels and interviews should be held off
Trust/Board property.
The Department of Health, Social Services and
Public Safety should immediately provide all lay persons
involved in the HPSS complaints system whether Wilson
or Children Order with appropriate indemnity on behalf
of all HPSS Trusts and Boards.
The role of lay persons needs to be clarified
and enhanced. The Department should also reissue guidance
to Trusts stressing the importance of their respecting
the independence of lay persons. Feedback on the outcome
of complaints to lay persons in both Wilson and Children
Order complaints should be improved.
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